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Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.  Thanks.  Steve
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Hi Steve,

Did you remove the drain bolt from the side of the cylinder water jacket
during the flush? It really makes a huge difference. As a lot of heat
absorbing muck lives there. In fact it cured the overflow jug barfing issue
I had. Not sure as to the fluid volume retained in the jacket. But I'd
imagine it is substantial.

Samuel
96 BBBB PB
NOLA
On Jun 19, 2017 9:15 PM, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <
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> Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.
> Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a
> manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but
> probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow
> tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms
> up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As
> always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.
> Thanks.  Steve
>
>
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Samuel,  Yes I removed the drain bolt and there was a load of rusty stuff came out.  I think this weekend I am going to reflush the system again.  Better safe than sorry and my Trophy is not much fun to push.  Thank you for your post and I will let you know how I do this weekend.  Steve

    On Monday, June 19, 2017 10:30 PM, "Samuel Crider [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

     Hi Steve,Did you remove the drain bolt from the side of the cylinder water jacket during the flush? It really makes a huge difference. As a lot of heat absorbing muck lives there. In fact it cured the overflow jug barfing issue I had. Not sure as to the fluid volume retained in the jacket. But I'd imagine it is substantial. Samuel
96 BBBB PB
NOLAOn Jun 19, 2017 9:15 PM, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.  Thanks.  Steve


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I found you have to open a vent at the top of the system to purge air. At least Its way on my 900 T-Bird.
Bob Clark 01 Sunset Red Trophy 120096 BRG Thunderbird 900Jacksonville, Fl
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      Hi Steve,
Did you remove the drain bolt from the side of the cylinder water jacket during the flush? It really makes a huge difference. As a lot of heat absorbing muck lives there. In fact it cured the overflow jug barfing issue I had. Not sure as to the fluid volume retained in the jacket. But I'd imagine it is substantial.
Samuel

96 BBBB PB

NOLA
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Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.  Thanks.  Steve






















   
     

   
   


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Steve, have you tried pumping the system by squeezing the hose as you put the coolant in. Fill from rad rather than tank.

Nigel

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> On 20 Jun 2017, at 01:17, [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.  Thanks.  Steve
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 Hey All,  Thank you to you all for the posts.  Pumping the system - I am heading out to the shop to give that and the vent mentioned as well.  Great ideas thanks to Samuel, Nigel and Bob.
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Hey Steve,

If you can get her on an uphill incline and then try. It should help a bit.
Sounds like some odd airlock somewhere. One you've tried that. Just run her
for a bit and check for good circulation. I'd install the cap and let her
pressurize a few times. And keep topping her off until she is full. Then
set the level in the expansion tank.

Best wishes,
Samuel
On Jun 20, 2017 8:33 AM, "Nigel Keating [hidden email]
[TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
> Steve, have you tried pumping the system by squeezing the hose as you put
> the coolant in. Fill from rad rather than tank.
>
> Nigel
>
> Nigel
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 20 Jun 2017, at 01:17, [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.
> Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a
> manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but
> probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow
> tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms
> up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As
> always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.
> Thanks.  Steve
>
>
>
>
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I was just about to post the same thing Samuel!

     Topping off a Trophy Radiator is kind of a strange animal in my
opinion! On most cars you just run the engine until the thermostat opens
and then top it off an cap it. That didn't work on my Trophy. I had to
keep warming it up after topping it off then letting it cool. Several
times of doing this I finally arrived at a point when it cooled off the
radiator was full when cool. I did keep the lower half of the overflow
tank filled as well during this process. I then filled it a little above
the lower line and have had no further problems.  Every time I flush the
coolant this process is the only way I can get it topped off again.

Ed J.


On 6/20/2017 2:27 PM, Samuel Crider [hidden email]
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>
> Hey Steve,
>
> If you can get her on an uphill incline and then try. It should help a
> bit. Sounds like some odd airlock somewhere. One you've tried that.
> Just run her for a bit and check for good circulation. I'd install the
> cap and let her pressurize a few times. And keep topping her off until
> she is full. Then set the level in the expansion tank.
>
> Best wishes,
> Samuel
>
> On Jun 20, 2017 8:33 AM, "Nigel Keating [hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]> [TriumphTrophy]"
> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
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>     Steve, have you tried pumping the system by squeezing the hose as
>     you put the coolant in. Fill from rad rather than tank.
>
>     Nigel
>
>     Nigel
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On 20 Jun 2017, at 01:17, [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]> [TriumphTrophy]
>     <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>>     Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system
>>     flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the
>>     system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8
>>     liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just
>>     seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark
>>     and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is
>>     there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.
>>     As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to
>>     help me out.  Thanks.  Steve
>>
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I appreciate the info.  I guess I have to be patient and keep at it.  I do have a hill at my place.  My driveway is pretty much 30 degrees.  I will keep at it and thanks again for all your help.  Steve  PS  Sure love the power the 900 puts out.  Kind of makes my HD seem more lawnmower like all the time.   

    On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:08 PM, "Ed Johnson [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

      I was just about to post the same thing Samuel!     Topping off a Trophy Radiator is kind of a strange animal in my opinion! On most cars you just run the engine until the thermostat opens and then top it off an cap it. That didn't work on my Trophy. I had to keep warming it up after topping it off then letting it cool. Several times of doing this I finally arrived at a point when it cooled off the radiator was full when cool. I did keep the lower half of the overflow tank filled as well during this process. I then filled it a little above the lower line and have had no further problems.  Every time I flush the coolant this process is the only way I can get it topped off again.
  Ed J.
 
 On 6/20/2017 2:27 PM, Samuel Crider [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] wrote:
 
 Hey Steve,  If you can get her on an uphill incline and then try. It should help a bit. Sounds like some odd airlock somewhere. One you've tried that. Just run her for a bit and check for good circulation. I'd install the cap and let her pressurize a few times. And keep topping her off until she is full. Then set the level in the expansion tank. Best wishes,
 Samuel On Jun 20, 2017 8:33 AM, "Nigel Keating [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
 
 
 
 Steve, have you tried pumping the system by squeezing the hose as you put the coolant in. Fill from rad rather than tank.
  Nigel
 
 Nigel Sent from my iPhone  
 On 20 Jun 2017, at 01:17, [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] <[hidden email] > wrote:
 
 
     Hi All,  I have a 96 Trophy 900 and have done a cooling system flush.  Problem seems to be getting the coolant back into the system.  I have a manual (Haynes) and it is telling me 2,8 liters.  I have gotten all but probably 250ml in and it just seems to be full up.  I have the overflow tank at the low mark and it goes up to the higher mark when the bike warms up.  Is there something I am missing or is the Haynes manual off base.  As always thank you for your advise.  You always are there to help me out.  Thanks.  Steve  
 
 
 
   
 
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