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I'm the owner of a 1999 Trophy 900 and am trying to replace the oil pressure switch that's located

on the left engine side near the gear selector lever and sidestand switch.


I ordered a replacement but it doesn't fit.  The Triumph dealer seems to think the switch may have

been changed at some point.


I've attached a photo of the one I removed - brass colored - and the replacement.  The threaded

part on the replacement is much shorter and won't reach - there's also a small protrusion next

to the hole that prevents the much larger bolt part from getting close enough to the engine, hence

the threaded part not reaching the hole.


Is anyone aware of the part # on the brass switch I removed? There's 4 numbers inscribed on the

part I removed - 4298 but that doesn't seem to help determine what the replacement part # is.


Thanks,


Jerry
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Could that be the neutral switch, going by your location description?

    On Friday, 2 June 2017, 2:57, "Jerry B [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

     [Attachment(s) from Jerry B included below] I'm the owner of a 1999 Trophy 900 and am trying to replace the oil pressure switch that's locatedon the left engine side near the gear selector lever and sidestand switch.
I ordered a replacement but it doesn't fit.  The Triumph dealer seems to think the switch may havebeen changed at some point. 
I've attached a photo of the one I removed - brass colored - and the replacement.  The threadedpart on the replacement is much shorter and won't reach - there's also a small protrusion nextto the hole that prevents the much larger bolt part from getting close enough to the engine, hencethe threaded part not reaching the hole.
Is anyone aware of the part # on the brass switch I removed? There's 4 numbers inscribed on thepart I removed - 4298 but that doesn't seem to help determine what the replacement part # is.
Thanks,
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sometimes if your parts guy is smart he'll ask you for the last five  
numbers of your VIN # just to make sure there wasn't a change at some point  
during production of that model year. This would assure you  get the  correct
part....my .02
You might look at the bike bandit web site and look up your bike's OEM part
 and compare??  
 
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 6/2/2017 1:34:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
 
Could that be the neutral  switch, going by your location description?




 
 
On Friday, 2 June 2017, 2:57, "Jerry B  [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]"
<[hidden email]>  wrote:




 
 
 
 
[_Attachment(s)_ (https://mg.
mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.partner=sky&.rand=9nuejmucep40e#TopText)  from Jerry B included below]  

 
I'm the owner of a 1999 Trophy 900 and am trying to replace the oil  
pressure switch that's located
on the left engine side near the gear selector lever and sidestand  switch.


I ordered a replacement but it doesn't fit.  The Triumph dealer  seems to
think the switch may have
been changed at some point.


I've attached a photo of the one I removed - brass colored - and the  
replacement.  The threaded
part on the replacement is much shorter and won't reach - there's also a  
small protrusion next
to the hole that prevents the much larger bolt part from getting close  
enough to the engine, hence
the threaded part not reaching the hole.


Is anyone aware of the part # on the brass switch I removed? There's 4  
numbers inscribed on the
part I removed - 4298 but that doesn't seem to help determine what the  
replacement part # is.


Thanks,


Jerry

















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Yes, I think the switch you have removed is the neutral switch.
If you look at this diagram, item 12 is the oil pressure switch, and it is shown as being at the back of the engine...
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    On Friday, 2 June 2017, 7:43, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
 

     sometimes if your parts guy is smart he'll ask you for the last five numbers of your VIN # just to make sure there wasn't a change at some point during production of that model year. This would assure you  get the correct part....my .02You might look at the bike bandit web site and look up your bike's OEM part and compare??    Tim In a message dated 6/2/2017 1:34:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
     Could that be the neutral switch, going by your location description?

    On Friday, 2 June 2017, 2:57, "Jerry B [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:


       [Attachment(s) from Jerry B included below]   I'm the owner of a 1999 Trophy 900 and am trying to replace the oil pressure switch that's located on the left engine side near the gear selector lever and sidestand switch.
 I ordered a replacement but it doesn't fit.  The Triumph dealer seems to think the switch may have been changed at some point. 
 I've attached a photo of the one I removed - brass colored - and the replacement.  The threaded part on the replacement is much shorter and won't reach - there's also a small protrusion next to the hole that prevents the much larger bolt part from getting close enough to the engine, hence the threaded part not reaching the hole.
 Is anyone aware of the part # on the brass switch I removed? There's 4 numbers inscribed on the part I removed - 4298 but that doesn't seem to help determine what the replacement part # is.
 Thanks,
 Jerry

 
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You've removed the Neutral switch...
 The Oil Pressure Switch is located at the rear of the Sump on the RHS
 Easiest to get at it with the bike on the Sidetand and have a 22mm socket handy...
 Easy change, minimal loss of oil
 

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There were 4 different oil pressure switches used so as bob said you need to order by vin number. As yours is in the sump that narrows it down to one of 3

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> On 2 Jun 2017, at 08:35, '[hidden email]' [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Yes, I think the switch you have removed is the neutral switch.
>
> If you look at this diagram, item 12 is the oil pressure switch, and it is shown as being at the back of the engine...
>
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> Triumph Motorcycles | triumph-select-model-part | Triumph Parts | Triumph Clothing | Triumph Accessories
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> On Friday, 2 June 2017, 7:43, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>  
> sometimes if your parts guy is smart he'll ask you for the last five numbers of your VIN # just to make sure there wasn't a change at some point during production of that model year. This would assure you  get the correct part....my .02
> You might look at the bike bandit web site and look up your bike's OEM part and compare??  
>  
> Tim
>  
> In a message dated 6/2/2017 1:34:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes:
>  
> Could that be the neutral switch, going by your location description?
>
>
> On Friday, 2 June 2017, 2:57, "Jerry B [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>  
> [Attachment(s) from Jerry B included below]
> I'm the owner of a 1999 Trophy 900 and am trying to replace the oil pressure switch that's located
> on the left engine side near the gear selector lever and sidestand switch.
>
> I ordered a replacement but it doesn't fit.  The Triumph dealer seems to think the switch may have
> been changed at some point.
>
> I've attached a photo of the one I removed - brass colored - and the replacement.  The threaded
> part on the replacement is much shorter and won't reach - there's also a small protrusion next
> to the hole that prevents the much larger bolt part from getting close enough to the engine, hence
> the threaded part not reaching the hole.
>
> Is anyone aware of the part # on the brass switch I removed? There's 4 numbers inscribed on the
> part I removed - 4298 but that doesn't seem to help determine what the replacement part # is.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
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Gordon is correct! As always!

Ed J.


On 6/2/2017 9:23 AM, [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy] wrote:

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>
> You've removed the Neutral switch...
> The Oil Pressure Switch is located at the rear of the Sump on the RHS
> Easiest to get at it with the bike on the Sidetand and have a 22mm
> socket handy...
> Easy change, minimal loss of oil
>
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If the switch he removed was the neutral switch, it would have a protrusion sticking out of the threaded end that makes ground contact with the tab in the transmission to complete the circuit to the neutral light. I have a '99 900 so I'll have a look at mine when I get out to the garage. Mine is above the serial number break.

 Cheers,
 Glenn
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Hmmmmmmm, is it possible the same switch is used for neutral indicator AND oil pressure? I mean, identical interchangeable switches? It looks like the protrusion I remembered from mine is not as long as I remembered and is hidden in the picture due to the angle of the camera.

 Regardless, I'm pretty sure my neutral switch is the same size, shape and wrench size as the original shown in the picture.
 

 Therefore, I agree with the suggestions that frame and engine number must be known to be able to order the correct one.
 

 Cheers,
 Glenn
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Thanks for the responses, and suggestions - it was in fact the neutral switch that I removed!


I had originally given the Triumph dealer the last 6 digits of the VIN, so he did check before sending the oil pressure switch I ordered in error.


I did have an initial hesitation that the switch I ordered wasn't correct since others have mentioned

in the past that the oil pressure switch on the '99 900 is at the rear of the engine.


Lesson learned - new neutral switch on the way!


Jerry


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Gordon is correct! As always!

Ed J.

On 6/2/2017 9:23 AM, [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> [TriumphTrophy] wrote:
You've removed the Neutral switch...
The Oil Pressure Switch is located at the rear of the Sump on the RHS
Easiest to get at it with the bike on the Sidetand and have a 22mm socket handy...
Easy change, minimal loss of oil




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OK, my oil pressure sender is the same as your new one and my neutral switch is the same as your old one.
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Hi Jerry, Now you've got me confused. I thought you started with wanting a new oil pressure switch. I guess you noticed the oil light was either not going on when the ignition was turned on, or the light was going on when the rpm's were low. But then you ended with saying a new neutral switch is on the way.
 Gordon said not much oil is lost when the switch is taken out. He's right, the oil that drains out is the oil around the oil filter not the sump.
 

 Yes, 4 different oil switches were used in various Trophys. Tim mentioned Bike Bandit showing the 4 switches. I used to use Bike Bandit as a reference, I'd take their part number with me to the Triumph dealer, but the part number was useless. It was a Bike Bandit number not a Triumph number. I then came across 2WHEELPROS.COM their part numbers were honest to goodness Triumph part numbers. They even had the Triumph price. They use the same schematics as World of Triumph. 2WHEELPROS is now my go to reference.
 

 I rebuilt a few 900 engines and a 1200 engine and I ran into the oil switch problem.The 1200 uses a banjo bolt and switch near the top of the crank case. It attaches to the line that feeds oil to the head.
 The 900's switch is at the back of the oil sump. Some switches use a straight thread with a copper gasket. Others use a 1/8-27 NPT tapered thread, with no gasket. This tapered thread kind that is easy to find at nearly any auto parts store.
 

 Hope this helps,
 Greg
 


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Sorry for the confusion. It started when I noticed a slight oil leak coming from the

neutral switch - which I mistakenly thought was the oil pressure switch. When I tightened

the neutral switch, it broke!


So I ordered the oil pressure switch in error thinking that's what I broke, when in fact it was

the neutral switch.


The Triumph dealer is sending the correct neutral switch and I just sent back the oil pressure

switch.


Jerry


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Hi Jerry, Now you've got me confused. I thought you started with wanting a new oil pressure switch. I guess you noticed the oil light was either not going on when the ignition was turned on, or the light was going on when the rpm's were low. But then you ended with saying a new neutral switch is on the way.

Gordon said not much oil is lost when the switch is taken out. He's right, the oil that drains out is the oil around the oil filter not the sump.

Yes, 4 different oil switches were used in various Trophys. Tim mentioned Bike Bandit showing the 4 switches. I used to use Bike Bandit as a reference, I'd take their part number with me to the Triumph dealer, but the part number was useless. It was a Bike Bandit number not a Triumph number. I then came across 2WHEELPROS.COM their part numbers were honest to goodness Triumph part numbers. They even had the Triumph price. They use the same schematics as World of Triumph. 2WHEELPROS is now my go to reference.

I rebuilt a few 900 engines and a 1200 engine and I ran into the oil switch problem.The 1200 uses a banjo bolt and switch near the top of the crank case. It attaches to the line that feeds oil to the head.
The 900's switch is at the back of the oil sump. Some switches use a straight thread with a copper gasket. Others use a 1/8-27 NPT tapered thread, with no gasket. This tapered thread kind that is easy to find at nearly any auto parts store.

Hope this helps,
Greg



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I have the same slight oil leak coming from the neutral switch, and similarly, I assumed that it was the oil pressure switch.
I'm going to guess that the switch design wasn't set up for continued immersion in hot synthetic oils.  However, aside from the occasional smell of burnt synthetic oil that drips on my header, I haven't seen any other negative effects.
It's on my list of items to replace sometime soon.  I note what looks like a crush washer in the photo. I also wonder if these have a limited life.
- Dave

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    Sorry for the confusion. It started when I noticed a slight oil leak coming from theneutral switch - which I mistakenly thought was the oil pressure switch. When I tightenedthe neutral switch, it broke!
So I ordered the oil pressure switch in error thinking that's what I broke, when in fact it wasthe neutral switch.
The Triumph dealer is sending the correct neutral switch and I just sent back the oil pressureswitch.
Jerry

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Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Oil Pressure Switch  Hi Jerry, Now you've got me confused. I thought you started with wanting a new oil pressure switch. I guess you noticed the oil light was either not going on when the ignition was turned on, or the light was going on when the rpm's were low. But then you ended with saying a new neutral switch is on the way.
Gordon said not much oil is lost when the switch is taken out. He's right, the oil that drains out is the oil around the oil filter not the sump.
Yes, 4 different oil switches were used in various Trophys. Tim mentioned Bike Bandit showing the 4 switches. I used to use Bike Bandit as a reference, I'd take their part number with me to the Triumph dealer, but the part number was useless. It was a Bike Bandit number not a Triumph number. I then came across 2WHEELPROS.COM their part numbers were honest to goodness Triumph part numbers. They even had the Triumph price. They use the same schematics as World of Triumph. 2WHEELPROS is now my go to reference.
I rebuilt a few 900 engines and a 1200 engine and I ran into the oil switch problem.The 1200 uses a banjo bolt and switch near the top of the crank case. It attaches to the line that feeds oil to the head.The 900's switch is at the back of the oil sump. Some switches use a straight thread with a copper gasket. Others use a 1/8-27 NPT tapered thread, with no gasket. This tapered thread kind that is easy to find at nearly any auto parts store.
Hope this helps,Greg
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