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It's been about 2 months since I rode my bike, but it's back on the road today.
I ordered an RK Racing GB530XSOZ1 chain and had it installed (gasp!) by my local dealer during a visit today.  My old chain developed a stuck link, and after a bit of research and failed attempts to unstick it, I decided that a new chain was due.
Why did I wait so long?  Financial reasons, nothing more.
Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.
Glad to be riding again...
- Dave
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How much was the labor?  I'm at 24K miles on my original (i keep it clean and lubed)
Bob Clark


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Date: 05/19/2016  4:07 PM  (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [TriumphTrophy] New chain - back on the road


 



 


   
     
     
      It's been about 2 months since I rode my bike, but it's back on the road today.
I ordered an RK Racing GB530XSOZ1 chain and had it installed (gasp!) by my local dealer during a visit today.  My old chain developed a stuck link, and after a bit of research and failed attempts to unstick it, I decided that a new chain was due.
Why did I wait so long?  Financial reasons, nothing more.
Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.
Glad to be riding again...
- Dave

   
     

   
   


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I replace my chains and don’t use any ‘special’ tools.

 

Therefore, if financial elements enter into the debate, I have the least expensive option.

 

 

Ken Hastie

Triumph Trophy 1200

Handful of BSAs

MGB Roadster

 

 

 

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Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.

 

 

 

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Hi Dave,

I installed mine with a pipe flaring tool set that I already had. Which
worked fine. The trick is to not over expand the pin. If your not careful
you'll end up with a new chain with a tight link. In hindsight I wish I
would had ordered two connection links. As I'd like to add one to the
emergency road tool kit. Couldn't hurt to pack one for long trips.

Glad to hear your back on the road.

Enjoy the ride,
Samuel


I replace my chains and don’t use any ‘special’ tools.



Therefore, if financial elements enter into the debate, I have the least
expensive option.





Ken Hastie

Triumph Trophy 1200

Handful of BSAs

MGB Roadster







*From:* [hidden email]





Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding
the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read
that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive
(more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles,
depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really
well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping
to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years
from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick
one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial
reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had
3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.









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Back in the day they called them "Repair Links"! Probably for a reason! 8-)


On 5/20/2016 9:25 AM, Samuel Crider [hidden email]
[TriumphTrophy] wrote:

>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I installed mine with a pipe flaring tool set that I already had.
> Which worked fine. The trick is to not over expand the pin. If your
> not careful you'll end up with a new chain with a tight link. In
> hindsight I wish I would had ordered two connection links. As I'd like
> to add one to the emergency road tool kit. Couldn't hurt to pack one
> for long trips.
>
> Glad to hear your back on the road.
>
> Enjoy the ride,
> Samuel
>
>
>
> I replace my chains and don’t use any ‘special’ tools.
>
> Therefore, if financial elements enter into the debate, I have the
> least expensive option.
>
> Ken Hastie
>
> Triumph Trophy 1200
>
> Handful of BSAs
>
> MGB Roadster
>
> *From:*[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>
> Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions
> regarding the purchase of chain tools. Cheap tools are pretty cheap,
> but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones
> are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains
> should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  
> Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K
> miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more
> chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's
> time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft
> drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It
> would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4
> bikes, but not for just a single bike.
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Ed J. Indian Harbour Beach, FL 2001 Triumph Trophy 1200 321-795-4387


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My local dealership charged 1/2 hour of labor = $50.

 
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 Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:27 PM
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     How much was the labor?  I'm at 24K miles on my original (i keep it clean and lubed)
Bob Clark


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-------- Original message --------
From: "David Webb [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]>
Date: 05/19/2016 4:07 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: yahoogroups <[hidden email]>
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] New chain - back on the road

   It's been about 2 months since I rode my bike, but it's back on the road today.
I ordered an RK Racing GB530XSOZ1 chain and had it installed (gasp!) by my local dealer during a visit today.  My old chain developed a stuck link, and after a bit of research and failed attempts to unstick it, I decided that a new chain was due.
Why did I wait so long?  Financial reasons, nothing more.
Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.
Glad to be riding again...
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It's running nicely now.  No more clicking from the chain.
I have the old chain to keep as a spare.  I'll acquire a clip-on master link so I can keep it with me if I go on road trips.  The old chain didn't have much, if any stretch, just a stuck link.  I had the dealership cut it on the stuck link so I could re-use it in a pinch.
- Dave

 
      From: "Samuel Crider [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 9:25 AM
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    Hi Dave,I installed mine with a pipe flaring tool set that I already had. Which worked fine. The trick is to not over expand the pin. If your not careful you'll end up with a new chain with a tight link. In hindsight I wish I would had ordered two connection links. As I'd like to add one to the emergency road tool kit. Couldn't hurt to pack one for long trips.Glad to hear your back on the road.Enjoy the ride,
Samuel

I replace my chains and don’t use any ‘special’ tools. Therefore, if financial elements enter into the debate, I have the least expensive option.  Ken HastieTriumph Trophy 1200Handful of BSAsMGB Roadster   From: [hidden email]  Why didn't I do it myself?  Well, it was one of those decisions regarding the purchase of chain tools.  Cheap tools are pretty cheap, but I've read that they might not last a single use.  Expensive ones are pretty expensive (more than the cost of the chain) and chains should last 15k - 30k miles, depending on how well they're treated.  Since I try to treat my bike really well, I'm hoping for more than 17K miles out of the new chain.  I'm hoping to only need 1 or 2 more chains while I own my Trophy, and several years from now, when it's time to move on to a replacement, I think I will pick one with shaft drive.  Again, I let the dealership do it for financial reasons.  It would be worth the investment for me to own the tools if I had 3 or 4 bikes, but not for just a single bike.   

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Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise that would stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.

 Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder) might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip and let us know ;-) .
 

 Cheers,
 Glenn
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 Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise that would stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.

 Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder) might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip and let us know ;-) .
 

 Cheers,
 Glenn

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Hi Glenn,

That's certainly open for debate. I believe chain strength has improved
over the years. For standard 1 up riding. I'd imagine a 520 setup would
suffice even on the BBBB. Lately I have noticed a lot of higher horsepower
modern sport bikes employing 520 kits.

Enjoy the ride!

Samuel
On May 23, 2016 1:47 PM, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <
[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so
> after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise
> that would stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too
> much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next
> time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with
> the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on
> his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I
> installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of
> months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked
> it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say
> there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going
> strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction
> before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.
>
> Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder)
> might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip
> and let us know ;-) .
>
> Cheers,
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
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Hi Samuel,

 If the newer ones are indeed stronger (and that would not surprise me at all), and big power sport bikes, albeit lighter weight than ours, are using 520 chains, then I have no doubt that our 530 chains are way stronger than we need. That said, I have seen 530 chains rated for different HP levels. I wonder what the difference is? The 530 refers to the form factor, really (link size - length & width). Different strength link pins, maybe? Certainly lots to study here.
 

 My next chain will be another RK with a clip, though.
 

 Cheers,
 Glenn
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 Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise that would not stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.

 Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder) might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip and let us know ;-) .
 

 Cheers,
 Glenn

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I've read that the 520 chains are too narrow for our sprockets.  Is this not true?
- Dave

 
      From: "Samuel Crider [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:05 PM
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    Hi Glenn,That's certainly open for debate. I believe chain strength has improved over the years. For standard 1 up riding. I'd imagine a 520 setup would suffice even on the BBBB. Lately I have noticed a lot of higher horsepower modern sport bikes employing 520 kits.Enjoy the ride!SamuelOn May 23, 2016 1:47 PM, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

 


Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise that would stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.
Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder) might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip and let us know ;-) .
Cheers,Glenn


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True. It would require replacement of both sprockets along with the chain.
Not something I'm really that interested in. As I suspect the weight saving
would be minimal.

Samuel
On May 23, 2016 4:30 PM, "David Webb [hidden email]
[TriumphTrophy]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> I've read that the 520 chains are too narrow for our sprockets.  Is this
> not true?
>
> - Dave
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Samuel Crider [hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <
> [hidden email]>
> *To:* [hidden email]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 3:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [TriumphTrophy] New chain - back on the road
>
>
> Hi Glenn,
> That's certainly open for debate. I believe chain strength has improved
> over the years. For standard 1 up riding. I'd imagine a 520 setup would
> suffice even on the BBBB. Lately I have noticed a lot of higher horsepower
> modern sport bikes employing 520 kits.
> Enjoy the ride!
> Samuel
> On May 23, 2016 1:47 PM, "[hidden email] [TriumphTrophy]" <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Well, I paid a shop to replace the chain on my BBB about a year or so
> after I got it (maybe at 30,000 miles). The new chain made a howling noise
> that would stop. I looked at the master link and the pin was flared too
> much and too short/tight. He made it right, but it was a nuisance. The next
> time I did it myself. I got an RK chain from my Honda dealer. It came with
> the link clip (repair link). My dealer said that was all he ever used on
> his CBX which is heavier and has slightly more power than the BBB. I
> installed it with the clip. I checked that clip every day for a couple of
> months for signs of trouble. Eventually I just forgot about it. I checked
> it again before my big trip in March and it was still there. I would say
> there is 15,000-20,000 miles on that chain and clip now and still going
> strong. It rarely needs adjustment anymore. I tightened it just a fraction
> before my trip, but that was after close to a year from the last one.
>
> Maybe those with the mutant engine (you know, with the extra cylinder)
> might still need the peened master link. I guess someone could try a clip
> and let us know ;-) .
>
> Cheers,
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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