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Hey guys, its been years since I talked to you. I still ride my bike and I still have it. Last year I had it down to the dealership for new chain, sprocket, carb rebuild with jet kit and a few other items. About 4 months ago I got a leak from the carb area and have not had a chance to find out where its coming from. So today I took off the tank and checked my hoses thinking I had a stuck float but got good news. I do not have to take the carbs apart again. The bad new is there are 2 hoses that go between the carbs. They are only about 3" long and they have T's that they go onto and there are filters at the bottom of the hoses. One of them is split on the 3-4 carbs. What I need to know is are they hoses or are they tubes because when I look them up they call them tubes.  Can I use fuel hose or are they so precise that I need to buy OEM. Yes, I do have a source for the parts but the are not cheap. I am thinking about taking both left and right tubes and the crossover out and putting new ones in because before the leak I had 6 months of shear fun with the bike. That new jet kit makes the torque even more potent. Now I have to buy a new rear tire. LOL. Anyways if any of you have knowledge of what I am talking about let me know. Thanks

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Hi Waleao,
Those tees are plastic parts with rubber boots that fit into the carbs.  The greatest likelihood is that the rubber boots have gone bad.
When I rebuilt my carbs 3 years ago, it meant splitting the carbs off of the frames.
If you're going to take on the task, it's not particularly difficult, but it is somewhat delicate.- Take lots of pictures and be careful to note the locations of any springs or little 2mm steel balls as you gently disassemble.- Use an impact driver on the JIS screws.  You probably want to break them all free first before going into full disassembly.- Be careful about the copper enrichment uplift tubes.  One of mine was damaged and needed JB-Weld to repair- I replaced all of the screws with allen bolts.  It's your decision, but I find that they're easier to work with.- Replace all of the rubber boots and both tees if either of them are damaged.- If the little fuel screens are missing from the tee inlets, that's where they belong.- You aren't required to disassemble the carbs, but if you want to get the float bowls off and clean inside, now's a good time.- With a Q-tip and some WD-40, clean the outside of the carbs.  You don't get this chance often.
I took photos when I did the my carb rebuild.  There are some photos on the Triumph Trophy wiki at: Fuel and fuel starvation.  There are additional photos, but I'm having a difficult time getting to Photobucket right now.
 
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- Dave

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    Hey guys, its been years since I talked to you. I still ride my bike and I still have it. Last year I had it down to the dealership for new chain, sprocket, carb rebuild with jet kit and a few other items. About 4 months ago I got a leak from the carb area and have not had a chance to find out where its coming from. So today I took off the tank and checked my hoses thinking I had a stuck float but got good news. I do not have to take the carbs apart again. The bad new is there are 2 hoses that go between the carbs. They are only about 3" long and they have T's that they go onto and there are filters at the bottom of the hoses. One of them is split on the 3-4 carbs. What I need to know is are they hoses or are they tubes because when I look them up they call them tubes.  Can I use fuel hose or are they so precise that I need to buy OEM. Yes, I do have a source for the parts but the are not cheap. I am thinking about taking both left and right tubes and the crossover out and putting new ones in because before the leak I had 6 months of shear fun with the bike. That new jet kit makes the torque even more potent. Now I have to buy a new rear tire. LOL. Anyways if any of you have knowledge of what I am talking about let me know. Thanks
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Hi, I had my carbs rebuilt and modified by Triumph last year. Yesterday I saw that gas was coming from one of the rubber hoses that run down between the carbs. I was only wondering if that is indeed a hose because Triumph list that hose as a tube and they charge $29 per tube. Mark told me that they are just hoses so what I am going to do is pull the carbs and use a small exacto knife to remove the hoses. I will clean the filters and reinstall and then put new hoses of the correct size back on and a new hose on the crossover as well. All the rest of the hoses are new from last year. Although I have rebuilt these carbs several times over the years I find that having a guy do it that has done it thousands of times a bit more comforting than me fiddling with those damn springs and needles. Thank you.
 

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Hi Waleao,

Replace both the plastic tees and the rubbers. The wrench should have
already covered it earlier. And if you intend on keeping the screens
replace them if they have any issues. You will have to unscrew the two
outside carbs from the mounting rails. And it is a bit of a wrestling match
to get the new ones inserted. But overall not too bad a job. Once you get
it all back together rebalance the carbs and your done.

Best,
Samuel


Hi Waleao,

Those tees are plastic parts with rubber boots that fit into the carbs.
The greatest likelihood is that the rubber boots have gone bad.

When I rebuilt my carbs 3 years ago, it meant splitting the carbs off of
the frames.

If you're going to take on the task, it's not particularly difficult, but
it is somewhat delicate.
- Take lots of pictures and be careful to note the locations of any springs
or little 2mm steel balls as you gently disassemble.
- Use an impact driver on the JIS screws.  You probably want to break them
all free first before going into full disassembly.
- Be careful about the copper enrichment uplift tubes.  One of mine was
damaged and needed JB-Weld to repair
- I replaced all of the screws with allen bolts.  It's your decision, but I
find that they're easier to work with.
- Replace all of the rubber boots and both tees if either of them are
damaged.
- If the little fuel screens are missing from the tee inlets, that's where
they belong.
- You aren't required to disassemble the carbs, but if you want to get the
float bowls off and clean inside, now's a good time.
- With a Q-tip and some WD-40, clean the outside of the carbs.  You don't
get this chance often.

I took photos when I did the my carb rebuild.  There are some photos on the
Triumph Trophy wiki at: Fuel and fuel starvation
<http://triumph-trophy.wikia.com/wiki/Fuel_and_fuel_starvation>.  There are
additional photos, but I'm having a difficult time getting to Photobucket
right now.

Fuel and fuel starvation
The Trophy tends to run on most octanes without too many problems. 87
octane seems to be popular, and doesn'...
<http://triumph-trophy.wikia.com/wiki/Fuel_and_fuel_starvation>


- Dave

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*Subject:* [TriumphTrophy] 2001 Triumph Trophy Carb Question


Hey guys, its been years since I talked to you. I still ride my bike and I
still have it. Last year I had it down to the dealership for new chain,
sprocket, carb rebuild with jet kit and a few other items. About 4 months
ago I got a leak from the carb area and have not had a chance to find out
where its coming from. So today I took off the tank and checked my hoses
thinking I had a stuck float but got good news. I do not have to take the
carbs apart again. The bad new is there are 2 hoses that go between the
carbs. They are only about 3" long and they have T's that they go onto and
there are filters at the bottom of the hoses. One of them is split on the
3-4 carbs. What I need to know is are they hoses or are they tubes because
when I look them up they call them tubes.  Can I use fuel hose or are they
so precise that I need to buy OEM. Yes, I do have a source for the parts
but the are not cheap. I am thinking about taking both left and right tubes
and the crossover out and putting new ones in because before the leak I had
6 months of shear fun with the bike. That new jet kit makes the torque even
more potent. Now I have to buy a new rear tire. LOL. Anyways if any of you
have knowledge of what I am talking about let me know. Thanks





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Hi Waleo,
The vertical tube between carbs 1&2 and 3&4 that connects to the tees at the tops and bottoms of the carburetors is indeed just a hose.
I didn't understand your previous post that the leak was coming from one of these.
- Dave

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    Hi, I had my carbs rebuilt and modified by Triumph last year. Yesterday I saw that gas was coming from one of the rubber hoses that run down between the carbs. I was only wondering if that is indeed a hose because Triumph list that hose as a tube and they charge $29 per tube. Mark told me that they are just hoses so what I am going to do is pull the carbs and use a small exacto knife to remove the hoses. I will clean the filters and reinstall and then put new hoses of the correct size back on and a new hose on the crossover as well. All the rest of the hoses are new from last year. Although I have rebuilt these carbs several times over the years I find that having a guy do it that has done it thousands of times a bit more comforting than me fiddling with those damn springs and needles. Thank you.
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Perfect. Going to tackle it today. I ordered several parts from Bike Bandit this week to put on the bike such as turn indicators, plastic logos that have fallen off of the luggage, bolts and rubber bushings that have stripped or broken. I hope they do have them and I get them. The bike will be back to 100% by next week if they do. Then time to get insurance back on the bike and a new inspection sticker and we are off.
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